The Untwinked Level 99 Progress Thread, Revenge of the 99ers

Pb_pal

Diabloii.Net Member
@Pb_pal if you have tips for undergeared barb at council, I need them! My runs are getting better, but still takes a while to kill them, but the merc is struggling with upped duriels, steel shade and reapers. And fanaticism or conviction seem to be insta-.resets
I have never run Trav with an under-geared barb before, but I'll let you know when I get there! If your main problem is your merc the only thing that will likely help will be getting him some levels, sadly. Mercs struggle there at lower levels without proper gear like Kiras/Steel Shade, etc. Get his resists up, make sure you're using BO on him, and don't expect to go very fast. :p
 

Luhkoh

Diabloii.Net Member
I have never run Trav with an under-geared barb before, but I'll let you know when I get there! If your main problem is your merc the only thing that will likely help will be getting him some levels, sadly. Mercs struggle there at lower levels without proper gear like Kiras/Steel Shade, etc. Get his resists up, make sure you're using BO on him, and don't expect to go very fast. :p
Haha ok sounds great. I do have steelshade on merc, but any of conviction might and fanaticism are instant resets. After I started following that, things have fared much better, though the merc will still die every handful of runs from spectral hit or something if I don't pay him enough attention. Conviction insta kills merc, but is not very dangerous for me (as expected), but I didn't expect fana and might to be such issues. Fana kills the merc and can kill me, but slowly, and might kills both merc and me very quickly. Is it just me or does might always seem worse than fana? I never hear anyone else mention might and fanaticism as ones the barb can't take on, so maybe those are the situations where a higher lvl really helps? Though I ran the basic chance to hit numbers, and going from lvl 80 to 85 only changed my merc with 7000def's chance to be hit from like 44% to 43%, so not sure if I'm doing something wrong there or if there's something specific to certain boss modifiers. Of course the extra life and ~1% higher chance to hit would help some as well.
 

PhineasB

Diabloii.Net Member
@Luhkoh I think the main issue on level difference is the frequency of Council members hitting the merc. They hit hard, and at lower levels, they hit him pretty constantly and often into hit recovery. With those two auras, he's toast, while at higher levels, he isn't getting hit much so they are less dangerous. They impact on your barb's chance to hit also makes a difference, as his offense protects the merc. Obviously, the merc's ability to proc decrepify matters, but my experience at lower levels with prior barbs is that he isn't hitting much for that to matter. I think your approach of S&E with those rolls is probably the best approach until you gain levels. You could also try running without the merc to see if that makes a difference.

Edit: There isn't a lot past discussion on this topic (budget barb at lower level), so I figured I'd expand on my last point a little in case someone comes back to these posts in the future. I often search old threads when I have questions, and Luhkoh and I were PM'ing on the topic because he hadn't found much in older posts.

The merc's might aura obviously helps with the barbs power, as does the decrepify, even if it's not proc'ing regularly due to his low chance to hit. So it seems obvious that he will speed up runs. But I think it's worth testing whether the council kills/hour would be higher if he were left napping. His offensive contribution needs to be balanced against time lost to aborted runs, which may not need to be aborted if it's just the barb, and potentially slower completed runs due to the need to babysit the merc. Also, I've found potion management can slow things considerably, and if you need to feed the merc purples regularly, that may also slow things down as you need to restock. Personally, I also am less efficient / able to run for extended stretches when runs are frustrating or frantic. So that should be factored in if it's an issue for the player.
 
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Luhkoh

Diabloii.Net Member
@PhineasB I am still interested in why the marginal differences in chance to hit and chance to be hit (which I calculated, but am likely missing something) would make such a huge difference. Everyone says it does though, so I'm just interested in what would be going on there. The fact that both the barb and the mercs chance to hit goes up is something I hadn't considered though, which is a good point. Just still seems like a small difference even with 5 more lvls.

My thoughts on your last point about the no merc, from my ~50ish runs so far (so subject to change ofc) is that decrepify is pretty much needed. Even at lvl 75 (when he could first equip reapers) my merc hit enough that decrep was triggered well more than half the time. And if you can scrounge up either sheelshade or guardian angel for him, then I think he's definitely worth keeping around. Then the runs where he gets wiped out are the runs I wouldn't be able to survive anyways, with the exception of conviction. In those cases it might be worth trying to continue when the merc dies (with a finger on the esc button), but it's well worth the gold to res him for the next run imo. Also I think decrepify is far more important than the might aura, and while I found reapers before I was forced to test it, I think a lawbringer a5 merc would work almost as well. It has a lot more cold dmg, but at most 20% of the corpses should shatter anyways. And I sure won't say it's not doable, but I kinda feel like it's not worth attempting trav with a barb with budget weapons until you have either GA and 90 res on the merc or steelshade and 75 res, and either reapers or lawbringer.

You think its worth making a budget barb thread, or is the info being here good enough?
 

PhineasB

Diabloii.Net Member
A brief update before I'm offline for a bit. But before that, congrats to @buckcrazy and @Bewitch on the solid progress for the last level. Also, nice progress by @Pb_pal and good luck on the non-LK approach. I can totally relate, as Death minimized his LK runs.

I ended up having to add a day to my trip earlier this week, so didn’t get home until late Wednesday. I’m heading out again early tomorrow through Tuesday, so no progress will be made, and then I will try to focus on completing a set in RFL Rd 2 with Death. Pestilence didn’t get all the way to 98 as I’d hoped, still >6M shy. But . . .

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Patriarch Death and Hazade the A2 Might Merc, Lvl 93 (pic)
Death finished up his last few Pit runs, went back to use his last respec, and is ready for RFL Rd 2 when I get back. I made sure to get base strength and dext to equip gear without +stats, with the rest to vita. I ended up going with CoA/GBane on the merc, with a realgar jewel for now. I will likely swap in the Ral once I find it and a Hel.

Sadly, no major item upgrades or runes, but a very nice charm was really the only thing to show for 92-93:
Pits (Shimmering SC of Vita).jpg
From here on out, I’m hoping to focus on Council until Engima. If he’s extremely lucky, the 20-hour RFL set is all he will need (fingers crossed).

I will likely also do Pit runs with Pestilence as a break to ping 98 before the end of Rd 2. That will then allow getting comfortable with Nihl runs before RFL Rd 3, with those 20 hours hopefully getting him close to 1/5 into the last level. It will also allow Trav runs with Death and Baal runs with Quinta as breaks over that three-week stretch. So plenty of good options with the untwinked 99ers to keep things moving :)

Good luck to everyone running RFL Rd 2, and those continuing the push for XP with their untwinked 99ers.

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Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
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T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  99     3.52  2018-12-26  Yes     -    463       -      -
Questing Heroes
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PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  97.9   3.20  2019-04-01  Yes     -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  97.5   3.09  2019-02-19  Yes     -    408      NA      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    97.36  3.00  2019-03-16  Yes     -      -       -      -
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sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  93     2.14  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.12  2018-09-08  No      -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Death            SC     Barb   93     2.09  2019-04-12  No      -      -       1      -
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Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  91     1.79  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   91     1.89  2019-02-04  Yes     -    223       -      -
LongingForDeath  VelvetSky        SC     Sorc   91     1.77  2019-03-09  Yes     -    207      11      -
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TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    **     ?.??  2019-02-09  Yes     -      -       -      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   87     ?.??  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
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Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Luhkoh           Arkana           SC     Sorc   86     1.14  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       -      -
sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   85     1.10  2018-12-19  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Bobbo            Barbamel         HC     Barb   84     1.01  2019-01-11  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
nepeta           finistere        SC     Sin    83     1.14  2019-01-04  ?       -      -       1      4
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Resting Heroes
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Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
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Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
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Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
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Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
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drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
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The Fallen
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art_vandelay

Diabloii.Net Member
After getting 8 hours of RFL done in the first two days of round two I needed a change of scenery and this seemed like exactly the right thing to do :)

I wasn't sure what character would be best for my first attempt at 99 but I knew that I didn't want to gear up with a sorc again after spending 4 weeks doing just that. A Druid is probably the slowest option and Barb involves WW, so no thank you :D
Due to the way I want to try and get a twinked 99er Paladin sometime in the future (Hammerdin->Dreamer) that option was out as it revolves way to many Jah's and perfect resist Targes for my untwinked taste.
I also wanted to avoid Nihlathak the first time around because he and his friends seem like a bunch of douchebags :D So a good Baal runner which leaves Assassin and Amazon.
Since I will pretty much strip off any gear she finds that she doesn't need and give it to the twinked pool the Amazon was out. The thought of finding a Griffon's on an untwinked char before I find one on my twinked characters and not being able to mule it off for maximum profit was horrifying. :confused:

That leaves me with a good old Assassin :)

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Soon to be level 70+ predatory_wasp first saw the light of day last night and made it to level 28 in about 5 hours (I couldn't stop! :p ) and is currently parked in act 5 where she is going to run Eldritch and later Baal. I will share the progress until this point and then get her to Hell which shouldn't be nearly as interesting as the early levels.

I decided to play through the majority of normal on p3 as it makes for smoother leveling and leads to only a moderate amount of kiting enemies (cursed Yeti packs on p8 are so doable :rolleyes:). I played her with fire traps until I hit the RoF WP (and early on also hit stuff with her Katar) and then respecced to lightning traps, this is also when I turned down the player setting to p1 which I kept until I got the Frigid Highland WP. I saw some people save their early respeccs but I didn't feel like throwing javelins and there's not a lot of variation with a pure Trapsin in terms of skill point distributions anyways. (On this note somebody should do an untwinked 99er pit zerker leveling only in pits, should be doable :cool: )

Some more details and a few pictures in spoilers so the post isn't too bloated:

Rakanishu never even saw me coming (overleveled in Mausoleum -> high FB damage):
pw_0008.jpg
He couldn't even run away... :(

Another nice thing was this map roll...
pw_0011.jpg
... and after no more than 10 countess runs I had Stealth and Leaf in my hands. On a related note I also was able to equip Stealth at that point. :D

After that I pretty much flew to Andariel thanks to BoS. On the Way I got another speed boost:
pw_0021.jpg
and the next screenshot I have is already of me killing Creeping Feature :D

It was largely uneventful after that... 4th way AS (MC Escher Layout to boot...) and discovering how well Wake of Fire worked there :confused: As a bonus I got a Kurast Sewers map where the entrance to level 2 is in the middle and had to walk around the entire map to find out. (Also suckers :mad:) There was a reward though:
pw_0027.jpg

Obviously Mephisto wanted the last word on that:
pw_0029.jpg

Now by this point I had already gotten the invisible merc bug and was still on p3...
pw_0030.jpg
Not even Diablo took that much time to kill :D

After that I ran to Eldritch where the grind can now begin :)

Additional fun fact: As the FAM way of respeccing still makes me very nervous about wasting skill and stat points I have pretty much only invested the strength for equipment so far, so she's been a little bit squishy all throughout. The irony of it all is going to Akara to respecc when you still have 120 Stat points unspent :D

Right now she has 140 unspent Stat points and 4 unspent skill points with a total of 149 life, luckily she can stay in the back for the most part :)

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I will update at level 70 (which is when I want to enter Hell) and then make a plan on what farming I want to do with her.

Also I entered myself into the tables basically by hand, having to insert spaces and preview back and forth. Is this the usual way or am I missing something big here? o_O

Hall of Fame
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Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-08-26  Yes     -      -      10   <300
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  99     3.52  2018-12-26  Yes     -    463       -      -
Questing Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
Buckcrazy        Zic              HC     Sorc   98.4   3.35  2019-04-10  Yes     -      -      NA   lots
Bewitch          Mayhem           SC     Barb   98     3.28  2018-09-13  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  97.9   3.20  2019-04-01  Yes     -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  97.5   3.09  2019-02-19  Yes     -    408      NA      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    97.36  3.00  2019-03-16  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  97     2.96  2018-11-20  Yes  2529      -       -      -
PhineasB         Quinta           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2019-01-19  Yes     -    374       4      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    95     2.50  2019-02-03  Yes  Lots      -       -      -
teddeeboy        Atheyanore       SC     Sorc   95     2.52  2019-02-03  Yes  300+      -       8   many
Quinneczech      Blackwell        HC     Barb   95     2.49  2019-04-01  -       -      -      NA      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   94     0.00  2019-01-12  Yes     -      -      NA      -
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  93     2.14  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.12  2018-09-08  No      -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Death            SC     Barb   93     2.09  2019-04-12  No      -      -       1      -
Potent           Challenge(CL)    SC     Sorc   92     1.96  2018-07-30  no      -      -       -      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   92     1.92  2018-08-16  No      -      -       -      -
Tatterson        Titaani          SC     Barb   91     1.84  2018-11-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  91     1.79  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   91     1.89  2019-02-04  Yes     -    223       -      -
LongingForDeath  VelvetSky        SC     Sorc   91     1.77  2019-03-09  Yes     -    207      11      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   91     1.76  2019-02-04  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
sir_cyclops      devi             SC     Sin    91     ?.??  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
Neksja           Aurora           SC     Sorc   90     1.70  2018-09-08  Yes     -    215       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    **     1.41  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       1      -
MizzouFTW        Mariah           SC     Sin    **     1.36  2019-01-28  Yes     -     -        -      -
BasicBhoy        Belgarath        HC     Druid  **     1.36  2019-01-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    **     ?.??  2019-02-09  Yes     -      -       -      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   87     ?.??  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
T72on1           Grapelike        SC     Barb   87     1.25  2019-01-24  Yes    98     82      13     37
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Luhkoh           Arkana           SC     Sorc   86     1.14  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       -      -
sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   85     1.10  2018-12-19  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Bobbo            Barbamel         HC     Barb   84     1.01  2019-01-11  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
nepeta           finistere        SC     Sin    83     1.14  2019-01-04  ?       -      -       1      4
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   83     0.90  2019-03-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   78     0.62  2018-09-29  Yes     -     37       1     15+
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Barb   74     0.40  2019-03-04  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Irenicus_Mfs     Morgana          HC     Sorc   69     0.26  2018-12-09  Yes     -      -      NA     14+
RIP              Sucell           HC     Druid  47     0.03  2018-12-08  Yes     -     20       -      -
Grape            Coke             SC     Barb   42     0.00  2018-12-06   ?     14     14       0      -
Izzak            Bones            SC     Necro  42     0.**  2019-01-10   -      -      -       1      -
art_vandelay     predatory_wasp   SC     Sin    28     0.00  2019-04-14  Yes     -      -       0      5
jjscud           Ragnarok         SC     Pala   06     0.00  2019-03-30   No     -      -       0      -
MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Sorc   01     0.00  2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
ffs              Lucid            SC     Pala   01     0.00  2018-11-22   ?      -      -       0      0
MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Necro  01     0.00  2019-02-19   No     -      -       0      0
Resting Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Babyhell         IpBanPrevales    SC     Sin    78      0.0  2019-03-14  Yes     -      -       6      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -      NA      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -      NA      -
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
The Fallen
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    95     2.55  2018-09-06  Yes     -    399       -      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   95     2.52  2019-01-04  Yes  lots    320      NA    103
Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  87     XXXX  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
RIP              Attila           HC     Barb   78     0.59  2018-09-26  Yes     -     73       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
Welcome and good luck!
Due to the way I want to try and get a twinked 99er Paladin sometime in the future (Hammerdin->Dreamer) that option was out as it revolves way to many Jah's and perfect resist Targes for my untwinked taste.
Tell me about it, that's what I was going for with my third entry, actually wanted to go melee only. ;) Not sure if I'll stick with that approach, but I'll get back to this after RFL ends – this thread is too quiet for my taste!
 

art_vandelay

Diabloii.Net Member
Thanks for the welcomes and gls! :)

@ffs I've never played a Dreamer, only ever a HS Pala with Crescent Moon. So I'd rather find out if I like him in a setting where making 2 novelty runewords worth a Jah isn't as time consuming.

Also since I don't know wether I will reach level 95 at Travincal it's quite realistic to do that with a Hammerdin at CS in round 3, so why not go a few steps further and attempt a twinked 99er? (I absolutely want and need one character at level 95 or above)

Considering the fact that I found a Jah pre-RFL all I need for it on top of the other runes I want (LoJah -> Phoenix, Ber -> Enigma, Cham -> Steelshade) are two Jahs. Sadly so far I only have 5 Chams so I don't even know wether I will have Enigma for Round 3. :(

There are some interesting Mat/Pat threads where people have run Baal (maybe for 99?) with a Dreamer and a Dream Bear Sorc. That seems like a relaxed alternative to Nihlathak. I'll have to dig those threads out again, it's been over a year since I read them.

For the Dreamer I would say that Grief probably beats Crescent Moon by quite a bit so I would be going for that as a goal and use Dracul's as gloves to achieve Immortality. (High Lightning Damage, more than decent Physical, insane Leech -> Solid Baal Runner)


(If it hasn't become clear by now: I really want to avoid Nihlathak :D)
 
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ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
Yeah in terms of twinked play I've had quite some fun with both Bear Sorc and Zeal Pally with dual Dreams. Bear Sorc is considerably stronger, but Dreamer is still strongest melee Paladin I've played. Indeed the phyiscal variant with Grief is stronger than CM. I haven't tried a full Auradin yet, though in the meantime I have made Hand of Justice and Dragons as well, so that's on the long-term agenda. :)

My plan for Lucid (my untwinked 99er Paladin – currently lvl 13 :p) was to hit LK for Enigma and then run Trav as phyiscal Zealot for those Dreams, and after that switch to Baal until 99. But I often throw plans out of the window. :D
 

art_vandelay

Diabloii.Net Member
Dream Bear Sorc is also dual element and I reckon that makes her a lot more uncomplicated, because even with full Conviction those LI's could be slow to take down, especially Lister. How strong is he exactly though? Is Salvation even needed? I guess one option would be to try Fanatiscism as a secondary Aura. (Or a mix of some Salvation Synergy and a reasonable level of Fana)

Be sure to write up your experience with the Dragon Paladin! I've read that the Hydra Procs can be annoying but don't know how much it actually disturbs gameplay. He probably won't be as versatile as a Dreamer but his Fire Damage has the potential to make up for that.

I wouldn't make any plans that are set in stone either... you never know what drops you get :)
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
Yeah Bear Enchantress deals fire damage also, but main difference is that Sorc's Lightning Mastery and + skills scale much better with Dreams than Pally's synergies. I could reach >70k max damage with her, it's ridiculous.

I used Conviction on my phyiscal Dreamer, you can still hit last Zeal BP easily without Fanaticism. Apart from much higher -ELR, not needing Infinity on Merc means he can use Reaper's. This is what I ended up with, having found Grief was stronger than CM – and for the Grief variant, Reaper's Merc is best fit.

The Auradin would be a dual Dreamer as well, but moreover using Hand of Justice and one Dragon (amor). I did play a dual Dragon/HoJ Bear Sorc recently, she was definitely fun and Hydras are cool and never annoying. :D
 

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Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-08-26  Yes     -      -      10   <300
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  99     3.52  2018-12-26  Yes     -    463       -      -
Questing Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
Buckcrazy        Zic              HC     Sorc   98.4   3.35  2019-04-10  Yes     -      -      NA   lots
Bewitch          Mayhem           SC     Barb   98     3.28  2018-09-13  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  97.9   3.20  2019-04-01  Yes     -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  97.5   3.09  2019-02-19  Yes     -    408      NA      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    97.36  3.00  2019-03-16  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  97     2.96  2018-11-20  Yes  2529      -       -      -
PhineasB         Quinta           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2019-01-19  Yes     -    374       4      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    95     2.50  2019-02-03  Yes  Lots      -       -      -
teddeeboy        Atheyanore       SC     Sorc   95     2.52  2019-02-03  Yes  300+      -       8   many
Quinneczech      Blackwell        HC     Barb   95     2.49  2019-04-01  -       -      -      NA      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   94     0.00  2019-01-12  Yes     -      -      NA      -
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  93     2.14  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.12  2018-09-08  No      -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Death            SC     Barb   93     2.09  2019-04-12  No      -      -       1      -
Potent           Challenge(CL)    SC     Sorc   92     1.96  2018-07-30  no      -      -       -      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   92     1.92  2018-08-16  No      -      -       -      -
Tatterson        Titaani          SC     Barb   91     1.84  2018-11-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  91     1.79  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   91     1.89  2019-02-04  Yes     -    223       -      -
LongingForDeath  VelvetSky        SC     Sorc   91     1.77  2019-03-09  Yes     -    207      11      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   91     1.76  2019-02-04  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
sir_cyclops      devi             SC     Sin    91     ?.??  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
Neksja           Aurora           SC     Sorc   90     1.70  2018-09-08  Yes     -    215       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    **     1.41  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       1      -
MizzouFTW        Mariah           SC     Sin    **     1.36  2019-01-28  Yes     -     -        -      -
BasicBhoy        Belgarath        HC     Druid  **     1.36  2019-01-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    **     ?.??  2019-02-09  Yes     -      -       -      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   87     ?.??  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
T72on1           Grapelike        SC     Barb   87     1.25  2019-01-24  Yes    98     82      13     37
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Luhkoh           Arkana           SC     Sorc   86     1.14  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       -      -
sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   85     1.10  2018-12-19  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Bobbo            Barbamel         HC     Barb   84     1.01  2019-01-11  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
nepeta           finistere        SC     Sin    83     1.14  2019-01-04  ?       -      -       1      4
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   83     0.94  2019-04-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   78     0.62  2018-09-29  Yes     -     37       1     15+
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Barb   74     0.40  2019-03-04  Yes     -      -      NA      -
Irenicus_Mfs     Morgana          HC     Sorc   69     0.26  2018-12-09  Yes     -      -      NA     14+
RIP              Sucell           HC     Druid  47     0.03  2018-12-08  Yes     -     20       -      -
Grape            Coke             SC     Barb   42     0.00  2018-12-06   ?     14     14       0      -
Izzak            Bones            SC     Necro  42     0.**  2019-01-10   -      -      -       1      -
art_vandelay     predatory_wasp   SC     Sin    28     0.00  2019-04-14  Yes     -      -       0      5
jjscud           Ragnarok         SC     Pala   06     0.00  2019-03-30   No     -      -       0      -
MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Sorc   01     0.00  2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
ffs              Lucid            SC     Pala   01     0.00  2018-11-22   ?      -      -       0      0
MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Necro  01     0.00  2019-02-19   No     -      -       0      0
Resting Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Babyhell         IpBanPrevales    SC     Sin    78      0.0  2019-03-14  Yes     -      -       6      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -      NA      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -      NA      -
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
The Fallen
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    95     2.55  2018-09-06  Yes     -    399       -      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   95     2.52  2019-01-04  Yes  lots    320      NA    103
Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  87     XXXX  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
RIP              Attila           HC     Barb   78     0.59  2018-09-26  Yes     -     73       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1

Finally moved on thru Act 4 this weekend, it was less hard than expected albeit there where plenty of moron deaths today going into Chaos Sanctuary. Oddly only the one from Diablo though just those damn knights killing him.

Completed first bit Act 5 too so i have access to Eldritch and Shenk when i want albeit that will be semi awkward with a orbiballer as both are cold immunes. Quite likely to skip the rescuing of the barbs as i dont need the runes and head on towards rescuing anya for the resists.

Oh the rune from Hell forge was a Fal.......
 

Gynli

Diabloii.Net Member
@art_vandelay
If you are gonna do Baal runs, you wont be limited to just the 3 Akara respecs. Tokens pretty much provide as many respecs as youd want. =)

On topic...
I pushed an Assassin to Hell Pindle this weekend and am currently sitting at lvl 84. Once the round 2 of RFL is over, ill add her to the list.
 

art_vandelay

Diabloii.Net Member
@ffs I didn't mean replace Conviction by Fanaticism, but rather use Fana parallel to it in case of annoying (broken) immunes. Together with the Decrep from Reaper's you shouldn't be far off the damage of an actual Zealot.

I'll keep your Dragon Sorc in mind when I try to find something to do with a surplus of runes (not quite there yet :D)

As an aside: You wrote in your Sept that you want to try out a Poison Dagger Necro. I know you want to use full TO's but as you own a Dragon shield I have to make sure you know: In this thread by onderduiker under 5. and 6. he explains a 'synergy' between Poison Dagger and the Assassin skill Venom that results in huge poison damage over short periods of time. (See the end of 6. ) He calculates it for level 15 Venom (as you get on Treachery and Grief) while Dragon has a lvl 18 Venom Proc.

@Gynli I'm aware of that, however that means doing Andariel, Mephisto and Diablo runs :confused: Especially CS always seems a little unpractical: Wraiths soak up and divert the lightning damage meant for the non-LIs while the toughest monsters have high fire and physical resists, making Death Sentry a lot more inefficient.

I really appreciate now how easy it is to farm essences with a Sorc :D
 
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ffs

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@ffs I didn't mean replace Conviction by Fanaticism, but rather use Fana parallel to it in case of annoying (broken) immunes. Together with the Decrep from Reaper's you shouldn't be far off the damage of an actual Zealot.
If you meant "unbreakable" immunes, indeed that is when I used Fanaticism on him temporarily. For "broken" immunes – it's not possible to get all three of Conviction, Fanaticism and Reaper's at the same time. :rolleyes:

As an aside: You wrote in your Sept that you want to try out a Poison Dagger Necro. I know you want to use full TO's but as you own a Dragon shield I have to make sure you know: In this thread by onderduiker under 5. and 6. he explains a 'synergy' between Poison Dagger and the Assassin skill Venom that results in huge poison damage over short periods of time. (See the end of 6. ) He calculates it for level 15 Venom (as you get on Treachery and Grief) while Dragon has a lvl 18 Venom Proc.
Yeah I've heard about that, definitely interesting. However, I think I'll go another route entirely with Necro, namely Bonehew with synergized CtC Bone Spear. Been planning to do that for a long time, either with Bonehew or Brand (but the latter I don't have on my 99er stashes). Thing is I fear PDagger is weak anyway and I'll just get frustrated and use PN/CE all the time. But remains to be seen... :)
 

art_vandelay

Diabloii.Net Member
Oh, right :D But at least we agree on the Immunes! :)

That 'synergy' is pretty much the only reason I ever thought about Poison Dagger in the first place. Any Single Target Skill that involves waiting is just... nah. :confused:

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On the topic of 99ers: I had to give in and put 50 points into Vit after I got annihilated by some random Champion Type Archer on the way to NM Countess. There were 3 of them in total but she did me in all by herself in the time it took for me to blink :oops:

Serious question: What do Assassins keep their socket quest for if they go Enigma/HotO/Spirit? All of those bases aren't insanely hard to cube by hand or just find with the right amount of sockets. Maybe Shako...
 

T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
All this talk about Trappers ... quite the coincidence. I feel the urge to make another untwinked 99er from time to time. Trapper currently is the top candidate. Although I might end up just leveling one up twinked.
 

PhineasB

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Trappers are the best :)

On the sockets question, I agree with Nano. The third socket quest might actually go to a third helm in case the sin finds a nice 2/20 circlet type helm. I can't really think of any other really practical option if she's HoTO/spirit set up.
 
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